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  • 11:32

    stephenmcclenahan:
    you want him because he doesnt want you
  • 11:32

    like when mom tells you stay out of the cookie jar
  • 11:32

    Morrigan:
    I wanted him when he wanted me too, though…
  • 11:33

    stephenmcclenahan:
    if you act disinterested in him he may want you
  • 11:34

    Morrigan:
    Hmm… Not sure how to act disinterested without him forgetting about me…
  • 11:35

    stephenmcclenahan:
    hmmm, do you hang out at the same place? have same friends
  • 11:35

    Morrigan:
    Not really.
  • 11:35

    stephenmcclenahan:
    then i gues your out of luck
  • 11:35

    did you guys go out? how long has it been since you were with him
  • 11:36

    Morrigan:
    We dated for 7 months. We broke up last month. I’ve talked to him a couple times since then.
  • 11:36

    stephenmcclenahan:
    maybe you should focus on yourself, what do you want to do with your life? what are yo good at?
  • 11:37

    write paint music
  • 11:37

    Morrigan:
    I want to be an editor/author. I’m a decent wrtier.
  • 11:37

    *writer
  • 11:37

    stephenmcclenahan:
    heh,, you could help me edit my blogs, i’d love to put together a book
  • 11:38

    focus on that if it’s your passion, then someone who appreciates your pation will show up
  • 11:38

    do you believe in God at all?
  • 11:39

    Morrigan:
    No, I’m atheist.
  • 11:40

    stephenmcclenahan:
    ha ha i love atheists,,,,,,, well then you have to focus on making yourself the best self you can possibly be(here i would insert things about gods purpose for you or something but that doesnt work with the athesists)
  • 11:40

    you don’t have a higher power to look to for help,
  • 11:41

    Morrigan:
    Yeah.
  • 11:41

    stephenmcclenahan:
    it’s all on you,, so you need to just figure out what your strengths are and develope them
  • 11:42

    ‘an atheist should not have much trouble getting over a guy,,, you arent bogged down by the whole “he’s my soulmate” thing or “he’s my destiny” or some other kind of nonrealist delusion
  • 11:43

    Morrigan:
    True, but I still believe in love and I love him.
  • 11:43

    stephenmcclenahan:
    how can you believe in love, that doesnt make sense to a true rationalist sckeptic atheist type
  • 11:44

    as an atheist love should just be rationalised out as a simple body pleasure thing, you can find that anywhere
  • 11:44

    Morrigan:
    Not believing in God and believing in love have little to do with each other.
  • 11:45

    There are things I don’t understand, that hold wonder for me, that I would never even try to rationalize, but that doesn’t include a(ny) God.
  • 11:45

    stephenmcclenahan:
    methinks you’re not a true atheist, you just don’t want there to be a God so you can do whatever you want with out any higher judgement getting in the way
  • 11:46

    elevating love to something more than just getting your rocks off and feeling good is just as foolish as believing in the possibility of a higher power
  • 11:47

    to the ratiional atheist skeptic mind
  • 11:47

    Morrigan:
    So, I’m guessing you’re Christian, yes?
  • 11:48

    stephenmcclenahan:
    a christian would consider me a heretic
  • 11:48

    i would mark undecided if forced at gunpoint
  • 11:49

    Morrigan:
    I’m just saying, being an atheist has to do with only one thing. I do not believe in God. That’s it.
  • 11:49

    stephenmcclenahan:
    i definitly dont think we’ve gotten to this point by pure randomness
  • 11:50

    love doesnt exsist without there being a God, or a other side, or a magic force or something supernatural
  • 11:51

    Morrigan:
    Yes it does. Do soul mates? No. But love, while mysterious and not fully explainable, does.
  • 11:52

    stephenmcclenahan:
    if you say there is no God, there is no spirituality
  • 11:52

    everything is cut and dry science, with rational explanations
  • 11:52

    Morrigan:
    No, it’s not.
  • 11:53

    stephenmcclenahan:
    then there is no room for love, sweety,,, love would be a silly missconception of the deluded who believe in fairy tails
  • 11:54

    if you believe in spirituality then you believe ther is some form of “God” just not the way most religions describe it
  • 11:54

    Morrigan:
    Love does not have to be spiritual.
  • 11:55

    Love is being happy when you’re with someone. Preferring to fight with one person over kissing any other. Wanting what’s best for them, even when it’s not what you want.
  • 11:55

    stephenmcclenahan:
    love is supernatural, it is not a solid mathamatically describable thing
  • 11:56

    what you are describing is not love thats just feeling good
  • 11:56

    a person is pleasing to you fill your needs makes you feel better,, that’s not love
  • 11:56

    Morrigan:
    then what would you say love is?
  • 11:57

    stephenmcclenahan:
    you might as well ask me what God is… but i do know that love doesnt exist if one believes in a truly scientific rational view of reality
  • 11:58

    love is just as much a delusionary belief as God, to the truly rational scientific atheist mind
  • 11:59

    an atheist shouldn’t worry about love, unless you’re not truly an atheist, which is what i think the problem is
  • 12:00

    Morrigan:
    I am an atheist. The only thing that is “required” to be an atheist is the belief that there are no gods.
  • 12:00

    stephenmcclenahan:
    Look I’m in no way saying that i believe athiest rational thought is stupid or wrong…
  • 12:00

    Morrigan:
    Anything beyond that is not intrinsically atheistic. It may be common in atheists, but not 100%.
  • 12:00

    stephenmcclenahan:
    i wish i could feel that way,, life would be a hell of a lot easier
  • 12:01

    Morrigan:
    There are plenty of atheists who are irrational and unscientific.
  • 12:02

    stephenmcclenahan:
    now that, i feel is silly and self delusional
  • 12:02

    an atheist says ther is no God,, an agnostic says he doesnt know
  • 12:02

    Morrigan:
    True.
  • 12:03

    stephenmcclenahan:
    an agnostic can be irrational and scientific but not an atheist
  • 12:04

    an atheist is basically the same as a footstomping fundamentalist, both claiming to know the true nature of something that cannot be understood
  • 12:04

    I meant,,,,an agnostic can be irrational and UNscientific but not an atheist
  • 12:06

    Morrigan:
    There are many atheists who believe in love. Maybe they have a different definition of love than you, but that doesn’t mean they can’t believe there are no gods and believe in love.
  • 12:07

    stephenmcclenahan:
    sure it does, find me a famous phillospher who was a devout atheist and says he believes in love, it’s not gonna happen
  • 12:07

    there are many atheists who are actually agnostics
  • 12:10

    if God doesnt exist then neither does love,,, love is boiled down to just pleasure seeking with know “meaning” beyond that
  • 12:12

    don’t confuse God with how man has defined it
  • 12:13

    if you believe in Love, as in there is something “more” there, something special,, then perhaps that same thing is your understanding of God
  • 12:15

    the something “more” that is there, the something that is above or more special then just feeling good is unexplainable and magic,,,,,,, God
  • 12:15

    Morrigan:
    I can see we’re not going to agree on this issue.
  • 12:16

    stephenmcclenahan:
    anyone who tells you they know what God is, or they KNow God doesnt exist, is self delusional
  • 12:17

    i can back up both sides the rational phillisophical skeptic atheist view,,, and the believe in God view,, you are the one who wants to take a little from each side
  • 12:19

    i want to believe that love is special magical spiritual, but i don’t believe there might be the possibility of anything else special magical spiritual
  • 12:19

    that’s self delusional
  • 12:20

    a true atheist would laugh at you